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Posts: 47 · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 18:15

Can you please change server settings just to enable auto assign as there is a constant problem of people wanting points and always wishing to be terrorist.

This is very annoying as when you join ct someone that has been speccing for a while awaiting to join terrorist jumps in. Then consequently if you spec for whatever reason they auto swap to ct and join spec awaiting the next person to join ct.

Not only does this make the teams unfair it also is unfair to people who do enjoy trying to achieve good points but are unable to to the unfairness of the teams.

Personaly i prefer Terrorist as i normally play but i feel this option would give everyone a chance to familarise themselves with ct too?

Cheers

Messie

Posts: 1307 · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 18:28

I hate to say this but I don't see how you can force a choice for people as to what team they join. Auto assign (in my opinion) would create more problems for the admins than solving problems for all in general. I agree that it can be frustrating when people hop into a certain team sometimes - but hey I'll admit that I am one of them sometimes - but then the same thing happens if the CT's are winning aswell as the T's. We also have to realise that some people - LBTG members included - like to play on the same team and quite often this means waiting for a spot to open on a certain side so they can hop in. Perhaps you've just been super unlucky in the times that you've played recently when this happens to you - I feel that things have started to get a bit better recently (save for a couple of exceptions) so maybe we just need to give it more time?

Posts: 265 · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 19:34

i agree that it might be better for balancing the teams but i now join ct nealry always (which is often losing team in my opinion) cause of my properties..
i think it is ok like it is now, u can win a round by all rushing straight somewhere, just have to play together i think it will work quite good

btw not at least css is played together with friends.... and they might want to play together :/

Posts: 400 · Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Last online: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 400

I actually agree =/

Posts: 1019 · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 20:58

i agree with messiah on this 1 tbh....its not even that ther is less ppl on ct's its just that the teams are just sooooo totally unfair Mad

, usually all the time tbh
it wudnt hurt for a trial period of auto assign to see how it goes Rolling Eyes

if sure some of you cud be doin with some ct practise anyway Wink

Posts: 731 · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 23:06

CT mostly the losing team? That's because it's a de_map, which basically always puts the CT in a worse position.

I gotta confess, I love CT and the m4 since it's more a challenge, but the points gained at CT are terrible. I usually switch/start to T as well if I'm annoyed for losing loads of points.

Imho, the points needs to be distributed more fairly, for instance giving the CT an addition 2 points for -not- letting the bomb get planted, more points for eliminating the T's, etc. But those are things which needs to be settled by the Hlxstats script itself, so I don't think it's going to change in the near future.

Posts: 1161 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:59

I agree with Messie, and i admit I mostly join T, but not for points couldnt care less tbh, but since all the other LBTG members are playing T.

If it is possible Aarons idea sounds fair.

|LBTG|AaronC wrote:

it wudnt hurt for a trial period of auto assign to see how it goes Rolling Eyes

I mean if it doesnt work out just switch it back and aproach the problem from a different angle. Or?

Posts: 3638 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:41

Sorry - But I don't think the idea of forcing people to join a certain team would be a good idea.

A solution to this 'problem' can in my opinion be reached by two things:
1. |LBTG| Members being a bit less focussed on points and a bit more on the gameplay. Try to split the LBTG members over both teams when playing, then you'll see things will smooth out a lot better. In other words; The solution starts at your own actions, not (as always) by policing the server. At least, that's the way I'd like to see it. I feel if we put this setting to auto-select, it will decrease popularity of the server. Personally I would be annoyed if I could not choose what team I was on.

2. I agree with Waray though.. It is more difficult for CT's to gain points. Luckily, I can set how many points are given for what actions and we (trin and me) will work on making this more fair in the very near future. This will in my opinion make things a lot better by itself.

Sorry to those who would want this, but we have always tried to find a balance between gameplay and player options. In my opinion this would limit player options too much.

If all else fails, we will consider putting the hlstatsx team balancer back on, which will swap people based on skill points. The downside to this is that people with a lot of points will get swapped over all the time and that can get pretty annoying as well.

Posts: 400 · Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Last online: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 400

Well im liking the sound of number 2 if by that your meaning that CT will reveive more points for kills etc. I have to confess that CT arnt my favourite team, and i do enjoy sniping theough the double doors to CT spawn, but i guess splitting the members up would make it a bit fairer, can understand why us the members would have such an influence on which team people join.

Posts: 1478 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:16

/my bad... I will try to join CT more often Razz

Posts: 731 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 13:15

What I ment is not giving CT players more points for killing, I ment giving the CT´s more points at the end of the round.

T´s get 2 points for planting, which is pretty easy to do and 5 points for an exploded bomb. That´s 7 points if they stick to the game plan. Now the CT´s can get those 7 points as well for killing all T´s and defusing, but those 2 bombplanting points are not available for CT´s and the bomb is usually heavily defended. Personally I think giving the CT´s 4 points for killing all the T´s before the bomb is planted will help out a lot to smooth things out.

Maybe giving the CT´s 1 extra point for defusing the bomb, 6 instead of 5 will also boost the CT a bit, since I think it´s cleary harder to defuse then to defend the bomb and letting it explode.

Posts: 2334 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 16:21

Lol I do not care about my points anymore cause all I do with them is lose them ;P Agreed with reg on this one tho

Posts: 1161 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 16:34

Well if you think it'll work, then go for it.

If it were my server(which it's not) I would remove the point system. I know its a big popularity factor but still, only makes players into stats*****. Which creates factors which alot(even members) have complained about. E.g. camping spawn with scout, winning team joiners, ppl giving up playing when they are losing "too many points" etc.

Im not gonna be a pessimist, if this idea of points will work, Ill be the first to stand up and cheer Very Happy

Posts: 2334 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 17:15

If Id own the server I'd put a stats system based on KPD on, but I like it the way it is now too. I just play for the game not for the points.

Posts: 167 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 17:50

I agree with reg, putting auto-assign on only will make the server un-popular, people like the small bit of freedom they get.