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Posts: 271 · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 13:48

British beef wrote:

I agree with reg, putting auto-assign on only will make the server un-popular, people like the small bit of freedom they get.

it is a public server and publics choice to what team they wish to be on.

i agree with warry as CT's get 4 pts for diffuse and T elimination wher T get 9 from plant, explosion and CT elimination. for many that is 9 pts for doing nothing, could name a few but wont Wink

leveler points, excuse spelling Embarassed

, would allow ppl to stay or join CT instead of joining T as points are easier to gain on T[/quote]

Posts: 1539 · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 15:02

I also agree. It would give ppl an incentive to join CT Laughing

Posts: 3638 · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 15:44

First of all... Without spectator being disabled, there is absolutely no point in auto assigning teams. Those who are creating this problem will just sit in spec until they can 'auto-assign themselves' to T.

Secondly, to those that say they don't like CT and they don't want to play CT:
If that is your opinion, then you have no business in complaining about this problem, because you are the ones creating it yourselves. This problem would not be there if people (including you) would have the common sense to make fair teams!

Other then that there is no point in throwing around ideas about what plugins you think should be on the server and what should be disabled or enabled. We will do what we think is best for the server, regardless of who whines the loudest. You should all know that by now. Smile

Not adding/changing any plugins anyway at the moment as a Valve update is imminent and by the sound of it, it will kill a lot of functionality.

Anyway.. The conclusion of the story is that whatever way we set up our server, there will always be conflict. There will always be people that prefer option A, while others prefer option B. Therefore it doesn't matter which option I enable, as there always will be unhappy people. That's why we will set the server up as we see fit. Of course your input is appreciated and will be dealt with appropriately (in this instance we will try to distribute points between the teams more evenly.)

To our members: You represent LBTG and the LBTG servers. Please try to be 'wiser' then others and set a good example by starting to solve this problem by dividing all members present on the server to both teams evenly. I guarantee you this will solve 50% of the problem.

Also, I know that it is not feasable to have spectator disabled. I just wanted to make my point about what an atmosphere of constant complaining can and will do to our server. It will make it less fun, as it is already doing every day.

Please do not forget it is well within our power to shut the entire thing down. That way there will be no more whining alltogether and we can all be (un)happy.

"Share your toys nicely now!"

Posts: 1359 · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 16:12

well put Reg, rofl @ toys

G33RT

Posts: 731 · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 16:45

|LBTG|Regime wrote:

"Share your toys nicely now!"

-_-

Yes dad Razz

Posts: 788 · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 23:50

|LBTG|sinky wrote:

was just on server and tbh no dis'respect to any one but can we get a grip with the bloody moaning about every stupid thing here,, tbh i am 1 of the first to moan about stuff but this is beyond the joke now guys, IMHO i think its silly reg removing spec as when i was on server there was some dodgy payers going about and i cannot as an admin spec him to c if he is total bs and this they now no about so as an admin i am basiclly stuffed,,( to many moaning people tbh) .IMO we should remove stats as every one is to busy like u say wanting stats...(wich just ruins the game altogether) i join t all the time cause i cannot play as a ct at all,so why should i play at something i dont enjoy ?? and i will not even attemp to play as ct as i get so pissed of i leave server,,even if there were no stats i still would not join ct. if there was auto assing and i get put ct i would prob just leave as i dont enjoy the game as ct at all, imo the game is shit as ct.
if i was you reg i would tell everyone to stfu cause at end of the day the server belongs to you and trin. why should you have to make all these changes...
and yes the main reason i am here and so annoyed is that there is now no spec mode and as an admin i need spec to do my job..
so please can we stop nipping reg's head about stupid shit cause he's prob got enough problems of his own as we all do. to be dealing with a bunch of moaning kids...
( god i am so pissed off now) sorry if i offend any body i this post but at this moment in time i am so pissed off.

OMG what a grumpy "BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP" i was sorry guys i an ass,,
will try be ct sum more to help out people,, i p00n anyways so it means i kills t's instead then lol Twisted Evil

Posts: 1534 · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 14:27

Never heard of a forced auto assign thingy?

I do now a mod/script whatever that will force people to the loosing team and switches players. And WTJ count and such..

It's called a Team Balancer, which imo would be great on the LBTG Clan server.

PTB (needs amxmod)
http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=26598

Maybe there are more mods with something like this? Dunno..

Die Twisted Evil

Posts: 2334 · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 17:43

Looks good but its still forcing some kind of assignment...

Posts: 1335 · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 17:43

Die wrote:

Never heard of a forced auto assign thingy?

It just removes the option to join T or CT so you have to click "Auto Assign" Smile

Posts: 1534 · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 19:12

|LBTG|copernica wrote:

Die wrote:

Never heard of a forced auto assign thingy?

It just removes the option to join T or CT so you have to click "Auto Assign" Smile

ah thats not what i mean with that PTBx thing, it allows you to join whatever team u want except if that team is stronger then te other..

Posts: 271 · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 21:25

i;d prefer the system of equal points between T and CT as warry said.

just after thinkin if ther is a method of switching people from T to CT or viceversa when they ackieve a points range. forinstance switch when you achieve , say, 60pts. so starting from T, play a few rounds+ few kills get +60 pts, then be switched to CT gain another 60pts then be switched back to T. could this be writen in the form of a script? was thinkin this to force vary (force being the wrong phrase) gameplay and give an opportunity to all to be both teams. However i also see a problem with this, the user could disconnect and reconnect to the server, once switched to undesired team, and choose desired team.
if ya think its a bit confusing, say so n i'll try to explain what i mean.

lol @ not many ppl can use their name in a sentance " choose desired team"

Posts: 3638 · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:14

The problem with team balancers is that the best players will end up getting swapped a lot. These are generally also the players that play the most (practise makes perfect, it seems..) and it can get annoying to be 'punished' for being good. We don't want these players to get annoyed and find a server where they can play how they want.

There is a team balancer built into hlstatsx that swaps people based on their points. That suffers from the effect I described above though and hence we don't use it. We have in the past and it doesn't really work.

@ Die.. We don't run amxmod on our server. At least for now (until the 'final' mani version -which is not being developed anymore- craps up and we are forced to use something else) I'd like to keep it that way, as adding extra plugins means extra resource usage on the server.

Posts: 2334 · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:50

Which means lag Smile

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|LBTG|Scythe ³ wrote:

Restrict spec to admins??? Or is there a way that admins can forcefully move themselves to spectate??

you can change the setting in mani so only admins can spec..... (afaik)

*they have to use the mani menu to put them into spec... *

Posts: 78 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:09

In my experience on this server there are a few people who go spec when the teams are unfair (for instance 5T vs 4CT) to get one of the T's to CT (if a CT "leaves" to spec it becomes 5v3 and autoteambalance kicks someone to CT) and then rejoin their team. This option would be gone if spec is disabled. Ofcourse that only works if no one else switches to T.

I personally don't care much for the stats anymore, but imo CT should get a few more points for a defuse than T gets for blowing up a bombsite because it's harder to defuse than to succesfully plant and defend the bomb. Eliminating the other side should be equal ofcourse.

As for the people who don't like to play as CT (I'm one of them on dust2), you should learn that CT plays differently than T. Ofcourse you can still rush a long and go to tspawn and then to b, but chances are you don't even reach the bomb before it goes off. 2 CT's at a long is more than enough unless u know they are coming there. Also camping in the pit is a sure way to get the bomb planted and blowing up in ur face.
Since this is a public server you might get some kills, but in the end it makes you pretty useless for your team. (I am talking about camping the pit for more than 30 sec, not hiding behind the wall there to ambush the T rush to a long)

As for the people who dont like T scouters "camping tspawn". Have you ever tried it? It's the perfect place to keep an eye on the entire map, you know how many CT's are going B, mid, and obviously the rest goes A. Your team rushes whichever side and you block off the centre of the map so they dont get backstabbed, or you tell them where the enemy is coming from. Basically if CT does their job (camping the bombsites) a T spawncamper has nothing to do the entire round (I usually go after the bomb if no CT's show up in 15 sec or so) So if you really hate T spawncampers... stop rushing like a retard and focus on your job.

I'm not saying CT isn't allowed to rush, but it shouldn't be done excessively like most ppl do (again, CT plays differently than T on this map).